| Teterboro [message #12672] |
Sat, 20 December 2014 21:35  |
Ross Russo
Messages: 278
Registered: April 2011
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Looks like I'll be going in to Teterboro for the first time. I'll be going to the Meridian FBO to take advantage of the CAA fuel prices. Any words of wisdom?
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| Teterboro [message #12673] |
Sat, 20 December 2014 21:47  |
Randall Kerns
Messages: 80
Registered: November 2012
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Haven't been there for awhile but have always been well taken care of.
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| Teterboro [message #12674] |
Sat, 20 December 2014 21:48 |
Charles Robertson
Messages: 117
Registered: May 2012
Location: KCPS St Louis Downtown
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Beech talk had a recent long thread on TEB ops.
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| Teterboro [message #12676] |
Sat, 20 December 2014 21:57 |
Robert Brooks
Messages: 29
Registered: June 2012
Location: Keswick, VA
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Have been into Teterboro twice, both trips we had a 30 - 40min delay in departing. Not much we could do but sit with the Turbines burning fuel.
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| Teterboro [message #12677] |
Sat, 20 December 2014 22:11 |
Ross Russo
Messages: 278
Registered: April 2011
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Dan -- I used to have a Twin Comanche based at HPN. Two of my favorite "working with ATC" flights were coming in to HPN -- one where New York Approach was so busy that all I had time to say was either, "Roger" or "Wilco" -- no tail number, no read-back, no nuttin'! It was glorious! The other was when the local controller asked me if I could make a short approach from the downwind leg. Oh yeah! Maybe I'd be better off going in to HPN and then heading to Manhattan. I'll have to see if CAA has anyone at HPN.
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| Teterboro [message #12679] |
Sat, 20 December 2014 22:35 |
Adam Wysong
Messages: 116
Registered: January 2013
Location: Addison
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Give me a shout Ross. We go in there all the time and use Meridian.
Timothy "Adam" Wysong Turbine Aircraft Marketing
4550 Jimmy Doolittle Dr
Addison, TX 75001
(W) 972.248.3108 ext 319
(C) 512.560.3371
(F) 972.248.3321
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| Teterboro [message #12681] |
Sat, 20 December 2014 23:03 |
mciholas
Messages: 1588
Registered: April 2011
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ken murphy wrote:
Quote:Also, we stayed in times square...about 11 miles away, took 2 hrs in traffic
to get there at around 5pm so I highly suggest being there late
morning/early afternoon if going into NYC.
I wonder if KHPN and taking the commuter rail would have been faster?
The White Plains to Grand Central times (for 5pm this Monday) on the
rail are about 40 minutes with a train leaving every 10-15 minutes or
so.
Rail station is about 3-4 miles from the airport, so short taxi ride
or FBO shuttle.
--
Mike Ciholas 812 962 9408
CIHOLAS, Inc 812 962 9401 fax
3700 Bell Road mikec@ciholas.com
Newburgh, IN 47630 http://www.ciholas.com
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| Teterboro [message #12696] |
Sun, 21 December 2014 10:56 |
Dick Shine
Messages: 389
Registered: April 2011
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If you are going to NYC you might consider going to HPN. It is easier to get into the city. They drive you to the train, about 15 min. You end up at Grand Central Station.
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| Teterboro [message #12697] |
Sun, 21 December 2014 11:24 |
Ross Russo
Messages: 278
Registered: April 2011
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Thanks, Dick. It looks like White Plains (HPN) might be the better option. I think the trip into Manhattan, whether by train or by car, would take just about as long from there as from Teterboro, with the added benefit of a lesser chance of delays when leaving. Also, I had a pretty bad experience with Panorama at HPN (they charged me $78.00 to service a nose tire), but they're gone now, and Landmark (who bought them out) has CAA fuel available. Plus, there are a lot more routes to take into the City from White Plains than from Teterboro.
Does anybody have any idea what routing I'll get into and out of HPN if I'm coming from the South? I fly into Bridgeport a lot (BDR), so I'm familiar with the Shark Route. Will I still get that?
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| Teterboro [message #12699] |
Sun, 21 December 2014 11:37 |
Ross Russo
Messages: 278
Registered: April 2011
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Dan -- Landmark would be the FBO I'd go to because they have CAA contract fuel available there.
Am I still going to have to come up over the Atlantic and over Long Island to get into HPN (Shark Route) or can I get a more direct routing into HPN from the south?
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| Teterboro [message #12704] |
Sun, 21 December 2014 12:12 |
joncarlson
Messages: 516
Registered: April 2011
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Well... who wants to sit with the family and baggage, plus maybe a smelly cab driver, for two hours in the Lincoln tunnel...?
I did the train in from HPN with my family and it was fine (I used to commute in and out of NYC from that area though, so I was comfortable with it). Depending on your kids’ ages and experiences, they can think the train is part of the fun.
-Jon C.
From: Mu2list [mailto:mu2list-bounces@mailman.mu-2aopa.com] On Behalf Of ken murphy
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 8:08 PM
To: MU-2 Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MU-2 list] Teterboro
Who wants to drag a family and a sh**load of baggage onto a train!
-Jon C.
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| Teterboro [message #12722] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 01:55 |
Ross Russo
Messages: 278
Registered: April 2011
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Will you actually get the Buono 4, or will they reroute you over the Atlantic? Going into Bridgeport, I've only ever gotten the Shark Route.
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| Teterboro [message #12723] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 06:41 |
Dennis Wolf
Messages: 179
Registered: April 2011
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Some local pilots will file for KFRG to avoid the long detour and then either cancel or change destination to HPN when they get close. I think that procedure is frowned on by ATC.
Generally, IFR around NYC is a royal PIA. Hope for good weather and make sure you get your Class B clearance. If the weather is lousy resign yourself to a 100 mile reroute at 4000 ft and just take your lumps.
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| Teterboro [message #12724] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 06:58 |
Craig Hili
Messages: 188
Registered: October 2014
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Yup. You can also file for DXR for the same effect.
Craig
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| Teterboro [message #12725] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 07:23 |
Ross Russo
Messages: 278
Registered: April 2011
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I just looked on fltplan.com for the routings ATC has actually been handing out. Seems as though there's always a circuitous routing to HPN, but Teterboro cuts about 20 minutes of flying time. However, Meridian FBO (which offers the CAA contract fuel) wants $250 per night to hangar the Mits. I think I'll be checking out Essex County, CDW. Their advertised fuel price is about $1.00 per gallon higher than I'd pay at TEB, but if the hangar is less expensive, I'll save overall.
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| Teterboro [message #12726] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 08:11 |
Craig Hili
Messages: 188
Registered: October 2014
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If you're willing to drive two hours, land at VAY and you can use my hangar gratis. I'm gone until Monday after the new year.
Craig
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| Teterboro [message #12728] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 08:43 |
Ross Russo
Messages: 278
Registered: April 2011
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Thanks, Craig. I'll be making the trip north pretty often, so I'm looking for a more permanent solution, but I appreciate the offer!
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| Teterboro [message #12730] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 09:59 |
Craig Hili
Messages: 188
Registered: October 2014
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Yeah man, no problem. Let me know if you need anything from down here outside of Philly.
Merry Christmas!
Craig
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| Teterboro [message #12751] |
Wed, 24 December 2014 14:25 |
Ross Russo
Messages: 278
Registered: April 2011
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Thanks to all who offered help on this. I've decided to try Essex County Airport in Caldwell, NJ (KCDW). White Plains (KHPN) would add about 100nm to the trip because of the circuitous routings ATC hands out to get there. Teterboro (KTEB) has a high hangar charge -- $250.00 per night, but they do have CAA contract fuel, which would save me about $1.00 per gallon over the price of fuel at Essex County. However, the hangar fee at Essex is only $107.00 per night, which is a savings of $143.00 for every night I stay there. I don't think I'd be able to buy enough gas at Teterboro to make up the difference in hangar costs, so Essex it is, at least for the first couple of time.
Best wishes to you and yours at this joyous time of year!
Ross
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| Teterboro [message #12752] |
Wed, 24 December 2014 16:20 |
Sanford Gerber
Messages: 196
Registered: October 2014
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Ross
If you are going to be going there on a regular basis, you may try and negotiate a better rate for all. I've done it at many places that I go to regularly.
Sandy
From: Mu2list [mailto:mu2list-bounces@mailman.mu-2aopa.com] On Behalf Of Ross Russo
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 2:26 PM
To: mu2list@mailman.mu-2aopa.com
Subject: Re: [MU-2 list] Teterboro
Thanks to all who offered help on this. I've decided to try Essex County Airport in Caldwell, NJ (KCDW). White Plains (KHPN) would add about 100nm to the trip because of the circuitous routings ATC hands out to get there. Teterboro (KTEB) has a high hangar charge -- $250.00 per night, but they do have CAA contract fuel, which would save me about $1.00 per gallon over the price of fuel at Essex County. However, the hangar fee at Essex is only $107.00 per night, which is a savings of $143.00 for every night I stay there. I don't think I'd be able to buy enough gas at Teterboro to make up the difference in hangar costs, so Essex it is, at least for the first couple of time.
Best wishes to you and yours at this joyous time of year!
Ross
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| Teterboro [message #12753] |
Wed, 24 December 2014 17:43 |
Anthony Wolf
Messages: 90
Registered: July 2013
Location: Durango, CO
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Would it be an option to take the train from Bridgeport in to Grand Central. There are departures every 40 minutes around mid-day and its about an hour 30 minute train ride.
Jet A at BDR is $4.15 at Three Wings (Colt 12/10)
Anthony F. "Tony" Wolf, CTP
Managing Director
Safe Harbor Associates
817-821-7335
anthonyfwolf@me.com (anthonyfwolf@me.com)
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| Teterboro [message #12754] |
Wed, 24 December 2014 17:46 |
Anthony Wolf
Messages: 90
Registered: July 2013
Location: Durango, CO
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MIght even be quicker to rent a car at KBDR and drive in to the city. Mid day its not a bad drive. Said with hindsight of many years.
Anthony F. "Tony" Wolf, CTP
Managing Director
Safe Harbor Associates
817-821-7335
anthonyfwolf@me.com (anthonyfwolf@me.com)
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| Teterboro [message #12755] |
Wed, 24 December 2014 21:11 |
Ross Russo
Messages: 278
Registered: April 2011
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Tony -- I've been going in and out of Bridgeport for a long time -- actually had my Navajo based there for a long time before getting the Mits. Atlantic has been willing to give me a really good deal on both fuel and hangar, but Bridgeport is just a bit too far out of the City. From Greenwich, it wasn't that bad, but it'd add a lot of extra time to the trip. Additionally, since I'd be coming in from the south, I'd have to fly out over the Atlantic and then over Long Island. I think I'm going to see how they treat me at Essex County. If that doesn't work out, I think it'll be between White Plains and Bridgeport (with a bit of a preference for Bridgeport).
Thanks for your help! MUCH appreciated!
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| Teterboro [message #12756] |
Thu, 25 December 2014 00:41 |
Anonymous
Messages: 6600
Registered: August 2015
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------ Start of attached email. Subject: Re: [MU-2 list] Teterboro ------
Bridgeport is a hour 20 ride.
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